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Uniform statewide school start date preferred

As a camp owner and seasonal employer, I feel the uniform school start date benefits both Texas families with children in different schools and young people who need summer jobs working in Texas. As a parent, grandparent and business person, I realize there are diverse opinions but do feel the uniform start date, whatever it may be, is of greatest benefit. One large plus to the current date is the utility and related cost savings to the state. The comptroller did a major study of this several years ago and the savings were staggering.

Submitted by 2 years ago

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  1. Pinned Moderator

    This idea was merged with a separate idea, "Uniform School Start Date - Better in the long run", into a single thread. Both ideas are essentially the same; both advocate for maintaining the uniform school start date. Rather than have separate discussions on two identical threads, both have been consolidated into one to allow for focused discussion. Participants are welcome to offer their comments and votes on this thread, and discuss the relevant statutes with the idea author(s).

    2 years ago
  2. As a seasonal business that pays taxes, and is regulated by the State of Texas, summer camps need a set time period in which to operate.

    Before the uniform school start date, summer camps could not plan camp terms from year-to-year, as school dates varied by school district.

    Summer camps provide valuable wholesome enrichment, team-building and leadership skills that produce healthy, productive Texas citizens.

    Before the uniform start date, parents often had to choose between attending the start of school and finishing up camp and often the student missed school.

    Schools saved money by cutting operational costs when the start date was pushed back to the 4th Monday in August.

    The uniform school start date brings certainty to summer camps allowing them to touch the lives of more Texas children.

    2 years ago
  3. sarak Merged

    Before the uniform start date, parents of children who attended summer camp often had to choose between attending the start of school or attending the last week of summer camp. Often times, the student missed school. For people who have never experienced summer camp, this does not mean much. For people who have, it's life-altering.

    As a parent of a camper, I wouldn't think twice about my child missing the first week of school to finish out her camp term. No question about it; we would just catch up. I believe the state loses money when a child misses school, so if you are making a decision based on money, which I'm sure many people are, I can give you a list a mile-long of parents who would say the same thing.

    As a former camper (went to summer camp 9 summers as a child), my life was totally changed by the experiences I had during the long summer terms I attended. The consistency of the PEOPLE that I spent my summers with was one of the key factors. Summer camp is a home away from home for so many children. For children who move often (due to jobs or divorce in the family or a parent being transferred due to military duties which happens so often) -summer camp is a safe haven that stays the same. A constant in their life where they are loved and welcomed and get to have a month of peace from the crazy schedules at home. If schools all over Texas were to start at different dates, this would dramatically change when each camper attended camp. The consistency of the PEOPLE at camp each term would no longer be there. This would break my heart. Obviously, I'm passionate about camp, but I'm also passionate about children and I've learned that consistency is a huge benefit for them.

    2 years ago
  4. Sounds like this idea is about the govt picking winners (camps) and losers (local entertainment businesses). We cant have that. A uniform start date is a bad idea, because it takes all control to the state level. A limitation on starting too early is good because it saves utility costs and limits growth of local govt.

    2 years ago
  5. As a leader of seasonal business (YMCA Camp) and a leading non-profit that provides services for children and families from all backgrounds, and is regulated by the State of Texas, summer camps need a set time period in which to operate.

    Before the uniform school start date, summer camps could not plan camp terms from year-to-year, as school dates varied by school district.

    Summer camps provide valuable character building, wholesome enrichment, team-building and leadership skills that produce healthy, productive Texas citizens.

    Before the uniform start date, parents often had to choose between attending the start of school and finishing up camp and often the student missed school.

    Schools saved money by cutting operational costs when the start date was pushed back to the 4th Monday in August.

    The uniform school start date brings certainty to summer camps allowing them to touch the lives of more Texas children.

    2 years ago
  6. I think we should keep the start date as is in August. It saves on utility bills, allows students to work during the summer, schools can set their calendars to end whenever they want so it will not affect holidays. It allows the tourism industry of Texas to plan their season. It increases taxes for the state if tourism is not cut by early start dates. It gives teachers more time during the summer to go back to school to earn their masters if they choose to. It has worked very well for many years so if not broke don't change it.

    2 years ago
  7. The uniform school start date brings certainty to summer camps allowing them to touch many lives of not only our children right here in Texas, but from all over. Summer camps provide a wholesome atmosphere where young people can develop outstanding personal qualities as well as self-esteem and self-confidence. It’s a home away from home where they can come and have fun being themselves, while learning how to get along with others. Camping experiences help our young people to become leaders in their own schools by nurturing their individual character. Both my son and daughter were campers which provided them with life long friends as well as life long skills.

    2 years ago
  8. I find it ironic that this is coming from the committee on efficiency and reform . The school start date has done both - the changes created more revenues coming into the state government because of the increased economic activity, thus more sales tax and payroll tax, hotel tax and gas taxes. And it has reduced costs by the difference of cooling the schools in August vs late May or early June when it is cooler. The reform - school start date - created the efficiencies I listed - why are we talking about this again? If we were to change it and go back to early August we would have LESS revenues and more expenses - thats the opposite of what we need.

    2 years ago
  9. My daughter has been attending Camp Mystic for 4 summers and attend camp for two weeks in early August. I also attended the samd camp for five years. I went for 5 weeks at a time but cannot afford to send my daughter for the entire 5 weeks. Luckily because of this law, the camp has been able to provide a two week session that I can afford. Although there are several campers that leave early from other states that require earlier start dates, they pay for camp and miss an entire week. It is only a two week camp so it seems so unfair to only let my daughter go for one week and miss the second. Also, it would mean that part of my money is wasted. She cannot afford to miss school as, in Texas, students in 9th grade have strict attedence policies and the absenses would not be excused; plus, she would miss too much coursework. Please keep the law in place so that her camp and others like it can keep their sessons in August. Thank you for you help.

    2 years ago
  10. The uniform start date helps scheduling for kids across the state. The uniform start date helps seasonal business and summer camps! I loved going to Camp Stewart, and our girls enjoy camp. Plus, the uniform start date saves school districts money. Let's keep smart government going!

    2 years ago
  11. As an employee of a seasonal Camp, I feel the uniform school start date benefits Texas families with children in different schools and young people who need summer jobs working in the state of Texas. Many families consider summer camp as an integral part of their children’s personal, social, and educational development. A uniform school start date allows us to effectively offer our services to the public. It also allows us to employee thousands of college age students during our season that otherwise would not be employed in the state of Texas.

    2 years ago
  12. Uniform school start date gives all educators the ability to attend both summer school semesters to further their career. Previously the calendar enabled two weeks off in the first quarter of the calendar year, forcing parents to burn two weeks of vacation or increased child care(if you can find it). Changing uniform start date makes no sense ...since there hasn't been an increase in instructional days in decades. So, what would we need additional days to complete? Keep uniform school start date, save money on electricity and keeps kids of buses when it is over 100. Uniform start date makes sound fiscal sense for Texas education.

    2 years ago
  13. As a DISD parent with children who attend summer camp, I prefer a uniform school start date. It doesn't matter if it's the 3rd or 4th Monday in August, but it needs to be set. Summer camps can't continue to operate if the school year continues to get longer and the beginning and ending dates fluctuate greatly from school district to school district. Summer camp was an important part of my childhood and I am sending my children to the same camp. They will be missing the last two days of school this year because of the late ending date in my district. If made to choose between attending camp and attending school, my children will miss school. Let our children keep their summer break. The life lessons learned at summer camp are invaluable.

    2 years ago

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